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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2009/07/01/insults-to-injuries/comment-page-1/#comment-15760</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I hate the very idea of firing Manuel. I can&#039;t stand people bringing it up. Maybe I&#039;m giving him too much credit, but I think he&#039;s managed the team pretty well through a very difficult spate of injuries. Honestly, and I&#039;m not trying to psychoanalyze the guy or anything, I thought the whole &quot;we&#039;ve got to keep our heads above water because we&#039;re really in trouble here until our star players get back&quot; line was a deliberate attempt to downplay expectations in the press and an attempt to get players like Wright, Santana, Rodriguez, Beltran and probably Cora, Sheffield and Church pissed off enough to start contradicting him in the locker room, pumping everyone up and convincing everyone they were good enough to contend. 
I think the downplaying of expectations in the press worked well enough, but Beltran got injured himself, and although Wright and Santana do seem sincerely pissed lately, I&#039;m not sure how well the second half of Manuel&#039;s efforts have played out. 
He&#039;s a manager that obviously understands that baseball seasons are marathons, and as you said yourself, the team is depleted and lacking several of its stars. I very, very much prefer a manager who isn&#039;t trying to yell Argenis Reyes into Hanley Ramirez right now.  I&#039;m just clinging to hope that his closed door conferences and team bus things and his comments to the press are helping to unite these guys during a difficult time. It could matter later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I hate the very idea of firing Manuel. I can&#39;t stand people bringing it up. Maybe I&#39;m giving him too much credit, but I think he&#39;s managed the team pretty well through a very difficult spate of injuries. Honestly, and I&#39;m not trying to psychoanalyze the guy or anything, I thought the whole &#8220;we&#39;ve got to keep our heads above water because we&#39;re really in trouble here until our star players get back&#8221; line was a deliberate attempt to downplay expectations in the press and an attempt to get players like Wright, Santana, Rodriguez, Beltran and probably Cora, Sheffield and Church pissed off enough to start contradicting him in the locker room, pumping everyone up and convincing everyone they were good enough to contend.<br />
I think the downplaying of expectations in the press worked well enough, but Beltran got injured himself, and although Wright and Santana do seem sincerely pissed lately, I&#39;m not sure how well the second half of Manuel&#39;s efforts have played out.<br />
He&#39;s a manager that obviously understands that baseball seasons are marathons, and as you said yourself, the team is depleted and lacking several of its stars. I very, very much prefer a manager who isn&#39;t trying to yell Argenis Reyes into Hanley Ramirez right now.  I&#39;m just clinging to hope that his closed door conferences and team bus things and his comments to the press are helping to unite these guys during a difficult time. It could matter later.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in almost any other year, I&#039;d be going, &quot;Sell, we&#039;re buried anyway.&quot;  Because in any other year, with all those injuries and all those thoroughly bizarre happenings (how can &lt;em&gt;Francisco Rodriguez walking Mariano freaking Rivera with the bases loaded&lt;/em&gt; possibly be called anything else?), we WOULD be buried.
Instead, because EVERY team in our division blows mountain lion sized hairball chunks, we are TWO games out.  That&#039;s it.  If you&#039;re that close to first place, even with an endless list of problems, you just don&#039;t throw in the towel.  You just don&#039;t.
And people can yell &quot;fire the manager!&quot; all they want, but Jerry&#039;s not going anywhere.  He has an extension (which I understand hasn&#039;t even kicked in yet!), and they&#039;ve already, in just the last seven years, had to fire BV and eat his contract, fire Howe and eat his contract, fire Willie and eat his contract.  We already look enough like the post-Ralph Houk, pre-Buck Showalter Yankees, skipper-wise, without doing likewise with Jerry (and the guy after that, and the guy after that, and the guy after that, ad nauseum).  The only way Jerry gets himself shit-canned is if he gets himself permanently on the bad side of one of the Big Five (Johan, Frankie, Wright, Reyes, Beltran -- not so much Delgado because he&#039;s on the way out anyway).
And firing Jerry is not going to change anything much anyway.  Most managers are dumb-ass strategists -- no, really, they are, almost none of them could beat a six-year-old at chess.  And managers can&#039;t make players do anything anymore unless they are very young or last-chance scrap-heapers.  Managers used to have some leverage over players by fining them, benching them, or sending them down, but once a player has a guaranteed multi-million dollar deal, there&#039;s no leverage there.  Fining a guy with $20 million in the bank is a joke, he won&#039;t be benched for months if he&#039;s making a fortune, and he can&#039;t be sent down.  So what else could a manger do except grumble and complain and throw food and furniture around?  Today&#039;s players aren&#039;t going to be intimidated by &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;.  Just ask Piniella how well he&#039;s doing making Milton Bradley and all his other problem children &quot;behave.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in almost any other year, I&#39;d be going, &#8220;Sell, we&#39;re buried anyway.&#8221;  Because in any other year, with all those injuries and all those thoroughly bizarre happenings (how can <em>Francisco Rodriguez walking Mariano freaking Rivera with the bases loaded</em> possibly be called anything else?), we WOULD be buried.<br />
Instead, because EVERY team in our division blows mountain lion sized hairball chunks, we are TWO games out.  That&#39;s it.  If you&#39;re that close to first place, even with an endless list of problems, you just don&#39;t throw in the towel.  You just don&#39;t.<br />
And people can yell &#8220;fire the manager!&#8221; all they want, but Jerry&#39;s not going anywhere.  He has an extension (which I understand hasn&#39;t even kicked in yet!), and they&#39;ve already, in just the last seven years, had to fire BV and eat his contract, fire Howe and eat his contract, fire Willie and eat his contract.  We already look enough like the post-Ralph Houk, pre-Buck Showalter Yankees, skipper-wise, without doing likewise with Jerry (and the guy after that, and the guy after that, and the guy after that, ad nauseum).  The only way Jerry gets himself shit-canned is if he gets himself permanently on the bad side of one of the Big Five (Johan, Frankie, Wright, Reyes, Beltran &#8212; not so much Delgado because he&#39;s on the way out anyway).<br />
And firing Jerry is not going to change anything much anyway.  Most managers are dumb-ass strategists &#8212; no, really, they are, almost none of them could beat a six-year-old at chess.  And managers can&#39;t make players do anything anymore unless they are very young or last-chance scrap-heapers.  Managers used to have some leverage over players by fining them, benching them, or sending them down, but once a player has a guaranteed multi-million dollar deal, there&#39;s no leverage there.  Fining a guy with $20 million in the bank is a joke, he won&#39;t be benched for months if he&#39;s making a fortune, and he can&#39;t be sent down.  So what else could a manger do except grumble and complain and throw food and furniture around?  Today&#39;s players aren&#39;t going to be intimidated by <em>that</em>.  Just ask Piniella how well he&#39;s doing making Milton Bradley and all his other problem children &#8220;behave.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of injuries, might there be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/01/health-beltran-reyes-ollie-and-others/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;better news&lt;/a&gt; on the horizon...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of injuries, might there be <a href="http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/01/health-beltran-reyes-ollie-and-others/" rel="nofollow">better news</a> on the horizon&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Greg,
The biggest shame is that not one of those eleven incidents involving individual Mets (not team efforts like 15-0 and one-hit losses) was by a player called up as a replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Greg,<br />
The biggest shame is that not one of those eleven incidents involving individual Mets (not team efforts like 15-0 and one-hit losses) was by a player called up as a replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, the Mets are still just a 5 game winning streak from most likely being in first place by Sunday night.  Even the worst Met teams of all time (late 70s, early 80s, 1993) won 5 games in a row at one time during the season.  If this team can do that now, they would most likely be in first place by Sunday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, the Mets are still just a 5 game winning streak from most likely being in first place by Sunday night.  Even the worst Met teams of all time (late 70s, early 80s, 1993) won 5 games in a row at one time during the season.  If this team can do that now, they would most likely be in first place by Sunday night.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of something-or-other, of those 16 &lt;em&gt;FUG&lt;/em&gt;ly losses, 10 of them came in June.
Which rhymes with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of something-or-other, of those 16 <em>FUG</em>ly losses, 10 of them came in June.<br />
Which rhymes with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urgh, thanks for that list.  My breakfast is a-churning in my gut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urgh, thanks for that list.  My breakfast is a-churning in my gut.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing we can do. There is just nothing to be done. It is amazing to me to hear the same fans who complained about aging veterans now demanding we go pick up, say, Damion Easley. 
Everyone knows how hurt the team is, we can&#039;t hide that any more. 
Omar can&#039;t pull a rabbit out of his hat. It&#039;s amazing to me that &quot;clubhouse veterans&quot; think that there&#039;s someone out there to be had, magically. 
It would be okay if it was just a matter of the other team out hitting us and out pitching us. The errors in every game just make it unbearable.
My only consolation is that the Phillies suck. Um, go Fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing we can do. There is just nothing to be done. It is amazing to me to hear the same fans who complained about aging veterans now demanding we go pick up, say, Damion Easley.<br />
Everyone knows how hurt the team is, we can&#39;t hide that any more.<br />
Omar can&#39;t pull a rabbit out of his hat. It&#39;s amazing to me that &#8220;clubhouse veterans&#8221; think that there&#39;s someone out there to be had, magically.<br />
It would be okay if it was just a matter of the other team out hitting us and out pitching us. The errors in every game just make it unbearable.<br />
My only consolation is that the Phillies suck. Um, go Fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need help, Lordy they need help, but yeah, let&#039;s not be swapping Jason Bay for Steve Reed on the off chance that we&#039;re not out of it when we&#039;re on the cusp of being in it.
In better news, I&#039;m not a pillar of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need help, Lordy they need help, but yeah, let&#39;s not be swapping Jason Bay for Steve Reed on the off chance that we&#39;re not out of it when we&#39;re on the cusp of being in it.<br />
In better news, I&#39;m not a pillar of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there prob isn&#039;t a trade that can fix this team.  Too many problems.  
My dad&#039;s off next week, and I had been looking forward to taking him to Citi Field.  Not so much anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there prob isn&#39;t a trade that can fix this team.  Too many problems.<br />
My dad&#39;s off next week, and I had been looking forward to taking him to Citi Field.  Not so much anymore.</p>
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