<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Thirty Years With the Wilpons</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/</link>
	<description>The blog for Mets fans who like to read</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:54:09 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Winning Rationalizes Everything &#171; Faith and Fear in Flushing</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-27472</link>
		<dc:creator>Winning Rationalizes Everything &#171; Faith and Fear in Flushing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-27472</guid>
		<description>[...] don’t really think about it one way or the other, do you? We haven’t stopped being Mets fans no matter how dunderheaded we believe our ownership group is on occasion, and I doubt I’d have stopped had the Dolans or Marge Schott or Charlie Finley or the ghost of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don’t really think about it one way or the other, do you? We haven’t stopped being Mets fans no matter how dunderheaded we believe our ownership group is on occasion, and I doubt I’d have stopped had the Dolans or Marge Schott or Charlie Finley or the ghost of [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CharlieH</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19636</link>
		<dc:creator>CharlieH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19636</guid>
		<description>Except that GMJ is &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; gone after 2011 -- if he&#039;s not DFA&#039;d by the new GM (hopefully either Kim Ng or Dan Evans) beforehand.  So it don&#039;t add up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that GMJ is <i>also</i> gone after 2011 &#8212; if he&#8217;s not DFA&#8217;d by the new GM (hopefully either Kim Ng or Dan Evans) beforehand.  So it don&#8217;t add up&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mets Links: Matthews, Offseason Review, Wilpons &#124; The Mets Report</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19612</link>
		<dc:creator>Mets Links: Matthews, Offseason Review, Wilpons &#124; The Mets Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19612</guid>
		<description>[...] Prince of Faith and Fear in Flushing writes a great piece about the Mets ownership history and current situation with Jeff Wilpon at the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Prince of Faith and Fear in Flushing writes a great piece about the Mets ownership history and current situation with Jeff Wilpon at the [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DyHrdMET</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19600</link>
		<dc:creator>DyHrdMET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19600</guid>
		<description>Greg, this is a great read and a great look back at Mets history.  I didn&#039;t realize the slight change in ownership that followed the 1986 season when Wilpon and Doubleday became 50/50 partners.  It kind of helps to explain my theory of &quot;a pattern of bad behavior&quot; as something that belongs on Fred Wilpon&#039;s shoulders.

I see Fred Wilpon as someone who came in with an agenda (what eventually became Citi Field), and someone who hasn&#039;t really cared about the product as long as he can make money.  Then he could pass it all down to his idiot son.  Look at how much bad has happened since the 50/50 partnership began, compared to 4 post-season appearances in 23 seasons.

Nelson Doubleday was the right type of owner.  He basically wasn&#039;t heard from, we never asked to hear from him, nor did we need to.  By the time the embarassment of 1993 came around, it wasn&#039;t his team - it was Fred Wilpon&#039;s.  &quot;Doubleday came out in favor of renovating Shea.&quot;  I knew I always liked Nelson Doubleday for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, this is a great read and a great look back at Mets history.  I didn&#8217;t realize the slight change in ownership that followed the 1986 season when Wilpon and Doubleday became 50/50 partners.  It kind of helps to explain my theory of &#8220;a pattern of bad behavior&#8221; as something that belongs on Fred Wilpon&#8217;s shoulders.</p>
<p>I see Fred Wilpon as someone who came in with an agenda (what eventually became Citi Field), and someone who hasn&#8217;t really cared about the product as long as he can make money.  Then he could pass it all down to his idiot son.  Look at how much bad has happened since the 50/50 partnership began, compared to 4 post-season appearances in 23 seasons.</p>
<p>Nelson Doubleday was the right type of owner.  He basically wasn&#8217;t heard from, we never asked to hear from him, nor did we need to.  By the time the embarassment of 1993 came around, it wasn&#8217;t his team &#8211; it was Fred Wilpon&#8217;s.  &#8220;Doubleday came out in favor of renovating Shea.&#8221;  I knew I always liked Nelson Doubleday for a reason.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeff Schneider</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19589</guid>
		<description>How bout adding we want an owner in touch with its fan base. Building a beautiful stadium in the image of Ebbetts Field with nothing commemorating the legacy of the Mets is proof the owners know nothing of whats important to the fans. To make those improvements in year two after a year of being embarrassed and scorned by its fan base is a major slight.

We want an owner who does not hide from what appeared to be a major failing in the past, the handling of injuries by the medical staff. Maybe last year was one big coincidence but, to start 2010 with the mis-handling of the Carlos Beltran injury gives us no faith that this season will not be a repeat of the injury plagued 2009.

And how bout an owner that creates an atmosphere that free agents want to come to. Clearly the comments by an acquisition like Chris Coste the day before he becomes a Met, Jason Bay as he prayed some other team would make him an offer and the snubbing of John Lackey and Bengie Molina proves that players don&#039;t want to come to the Mets.

How bout finding us an owner that can at least do some of the above. Jeff Wilpon is a destructive personality with a hand in every aspect of the team. He is single-handedly turning a successful and exciting franchise and turning it into the embarrassment of baseball</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bout adding we want an owner in touch with its fan base. Building a beautiful stadium in the image of Ebbetts Field with nothing commemorating the legacy of the Mets is proof the owners know nothing of whats important to the fans. To make those improvements in year two after a year of being embarrassed and scorned by its fan base is a major slight.</p>
<p>We want an owner who does not hide from what appeared to be a major failing in the past, the handling of injuries by the medical staff. Maybe last year was one big coincidence but, to start 2010 with the mis-handling of the Carlos Beltran injury gives us no faith that this season will not be a repeat of the injury plagued 2009.</p>
<p>And how bout an owner that creates an atmosphere that free agents want to come to. Clearly the comments by an acquisition like Chris Coste the day before he becomes a Met, Jason Bay as he prayed some other team would make him an offer and the snubbing of John Lackey and Bengie Molina proves that players don&#8217;t want to come to the Mets.</p>
<p>How bout finding us an owner that can at least do some of the above. Jeff Wilpon is a destructive personality with a hand in every aspect of the team. He is single-handedly turning a successful and exciting franchise and turning it into the embarrassment of baseball</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: I’m Reading: about Noble, Sheets, Upside, Figgy and Doc — NYFSBlogs</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19580</link>
		<dc:creator>I’m Reading: about Noble, Sheets, Upside, Figgy and Doc — NYFSBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19580</guid>
		<description>[...] Price of Faith and Fear in Flushing looks back on 30 years with the Wilpons, as owners of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Price of Faith and Fear in Flushing looks back on 30 years with the Wilpons, as owners of the [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19578</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19578</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Social comments and analytics for this post...&lt;/strong&gt;

This post was mentioned on Twitter by gfafif: #Mets fans have now spent thirty years with the Wilpons. http://wp.me/pKvXu-16w...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Social comments and analytics for this post&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by gfafif: #Mets fans have now spent thirty years with the Wilpons. <a href="http://wp.me/pKvXu-16w.." rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/pKvXu-16w..</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19577</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19577</guid>
		<description>I want to know my favorite team(of all my favorite teams) is making sound moves.  To know sometimes an older player is not a good fit and let the young guys play. It works sometimes and saves cash.

I want optimism. It seems over the past 3 seasons a cloud hovers over the Metropolitans and the fans in every aspect. Sure some of it is deserved. But the situation around the team feels tense. We are the Mets, and its fans, we are the fun alternative to the Yankees stiff and robotic way. When did that go away?

I want to believe again. Im only 27. The mets have had exactly 2 memorable shots at something in my life time. &#039;86  doesnt count i was 4. I want to believe this team is trying and will get there. But the bumbling moves, lackluster play, and lack of communication between team and management group makes it difficult. I guess this should have gone with my first &quot;want&quot;.

I want 16,17,18,31,45(yeah franco&#039;s changed number) retired. Want to reconnect with the fans? Add these hallowed numbers to our retired wall. What better way to feel good about the mets and their past and future then to do right to these guys who we still all love. The Dr.,The straw, Keith, Mike, and the local kid Johnny. A combined 1 world series but thousands of thankful fans for their hard play every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know my favorite team(of all my favorite teams) is making sound moves.  To know sometimes an older player is not a good fit and let the young guys play. It works sometimes and saves cash.</p>
<p>I want optimism. It seems over the past 3 seasons a cloud hovers over the Metropolitans and the fans in every aspect. Sure some of it is deserved. But the situation around the team feels tense. We are the Mets, and its fans, we are the fun alternative to the Yankees stiff and robotic way. When did that go away?</p>
<p>I want to believe again. Im only 27. The mets have had exactly 2 memorable shots at something in my life time. &#8217;86  doesnt count i was 4. I want to believe this team is trying and will get there. But the bumbling moves, lackluster play, and lack of communication between team and management group makes it difficult. I guess this should have gone with my first &#8220;want&#8221;.</p>
<p>I want 16,17,18,31,45(yeah franco&#8217;s changed number) retired. Want to reconnect with the fans? Add these hallowed numbers to our retired wall. What better way to feel good about the mets and their past and future then to do right to these guys who we still all love. The Dr.,The straw, Keith, Mike, and the local kid Johnny. A combined 1 world series but thousands of thankful fans for their hard play every day.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephen Rourke</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19576</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19576</guid>
		<description>This says it all.  Thanks for writing.

One final thought, for Wilpon Sr.:  Treat your team as a public trust, and not as an expensive plaything for your son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This says it all.  Thanks for writing.</p>
<p>One final thought, for Wilpon Sr.:  Treat your team as a public trust, and not as an expensive plaything for your son.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Greg Prince</title>
		<link>http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2010/01/21/thirty-years-with-the-wilpons/comment-page-1/#comment-19574</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/?p=4248#comment-19574</guid>
		<description>Yikes, I never thought of it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, I never thought of it that way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

