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Greg Prince and Jason Fry
Faith and Fear in Flushing made its debut on Feb. 16, 2005, the brainchild of two longtime friends and lifelong Met fans.

Greg Prince discovered the Mets when he was 6, during the magical summer of 1969. He is a Long Island-based writer, editor and communications consultant. Contact him here.

Jason Fry is a Brooklyn writer whose first memories include his mom leaping up and down cheering for Rusty Staub. Check out his other writing here.

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Two Out of Three Weren't Good

The Cubs have been the Mets’ fiercest foes at various intervals in our history. And the Braves have been our enemies and obstacles for what was, until a couple of months ago, a very frustrating decade. But our only true sustained rivalry was the one we dug in for against the St. Louis Cardinals.

It doesn’t exist as a meaningful going concern anymore, but from 1985 to 1988, Mets-Cardinals games had extra juice, thanks primarily to the Cardinals’ success in the odd years. We’d take our revenge in ’86 and ’88, blowing them out of the Mississippi early and often, but ’85 and ’87 were duels to the divisional death. And we died both times.

Find a Mets fan who was sentient in the middle to late ’80s and you’ll find a Mets fan who has never quite gotten over those two N.L. East races that didn’t go our way. Never mind that 1986 built on 1985 and gave us, as the video says, a year to remember. Never mind that the Mets recovered quite nicely from their failure to repeat in 1987 by lapping the field in 1988. For those who remember it — and those who never forgot it — the Cardinals occupy a psychic space as wide as the hole on the left side of the infield during a Carlos Delgado at-bat.

It was a long time ago. A very long time ago. I didn’t see Willie McGee patrolling center against the Padres Sunday night or Todd Worrell challenging Mike Piazza in the eighth or Jack Clark handling the final out that sent St. Louis back into our world starting Wednesday night. The Cardinals who made us miserable in two out of three seasons when we were at our franchise best no longer exist. No Whitey Herzog checking bats or juggling relievers. No Tommy Herr stunning us with unprecedented power. No Vince Coleman stealing unabated on Gary Carter. No John Tudor grimly striking out Darryl Strawberry. No Cesar Cedeño or Dan Driessen emerging from the scrap heap to stab us in the heart with the final shards of their expiring careers.

No Terry Pendleton.

It was a long time ago. And it doesn’t matter. But c’mon…you thought about it. The first words that came to mind after the Cardinals advanced — at least after Pujols…sheeeeyit — probably involved some aspect of the two years whose shortfalls prevented us from touching genuine dynasty status.

I spoke to a friend after we beat L.A. Saturday night, one who pointed out the possible trifecta of revenge looming. By defeating the Dodgers, he said, we got even for 1988. Now, if St. Louis advanced to the LCS, we could get even for 1985 and 1987 and then, if it’s us and Oakland in the World Series, there’s a chance to make up for 1973. Um, yeah, I said, but we already did that in 2000, didn’t we? We won the pennant over the Cardinals six years ago. I know we did. I was there. My friend supposed so.

But still.

I understood. We came within a total of four games — two against them in ’85, two against them in ’87 — of winning four consecutive division titles back when that sort of thing was nearly impossible. McDowell gets his sinker down; Jim Kaat doesn’t tip off the White Rat that Cedeño could still hit; John Mitchell keeps it together for one more inning on Monday Night Baseball; Kid gets around on Jeff Lahti…take your pick. That area above the rightfield wall could be very crowded had just a few more things gone right.

Yeah, it was close in ’85 and ’87, but the only Garcia y Vegas in sight were the ones given away on Channel 9. It was tough enough hearing our salt-of-the-earth heroes labeled Pond Scum by the allegedly civilized Midwestern masses, the same ones who booed Keith Hernandez (nice trade, pretty boys) and dumped beer on Lenny Dykstra. It was much worse being the Pond Scum that didn’t rise to the top. With due respect to years when we missed the playoffs at the hands of the Cubs, the Braves, the Pirates, even the Marlins, missing the playoffs those two times because of the Cardinals remain the craw-stickingest misses of them all.

Mind you, that hole in our history is indisputably irrelevant as we attempt to accomplish ever greater feats in the here and now. The Busch Stadium we’ll enter this weekend isn’t that Busch Stadium anymore. Realignment has made us strangers on a train, with us visiting them and them visiting us just once per annum. And the revenge fantasy should have been sufficiently quenched in the five games that won us a flag in 2000.

Yet, it’s the Mets and Cardinals playing for the biggest prize immediately available. We hated them. They hated us. I imagine everybody who watched then can figure out how to do that now. And aren’t we, at least the fans, the sums of all the seasons that have come before?

So welcome back, Arch rivals. Here we Scum again.

Shirts: An Update

The inaugural Faith and Fear in Flushing shirt order has been placed — and soon a big box of shirts will arrive at Jace's house. Yay! Gulp!
Thanks to everybody who said they wanted a shirt. In the next day or so we'll send you all a note asking for a mailing address and telling you how/where to send payment. (In most cases, the shirts will cost $16 delivered — those of you with bulk orders or who live in exotic locales, we'll figure it out.) If you've had a change of heart, no hard feelings — life is an uncertain business, and we'll understand if a shirt seemed like a good idea a couple of weeks ago but now not so much. Just let us know when we contact you. Otherwise, we're hoping the shirts will be in your hands within three weeks or so.
That said, a plea: We're a pair of crazy bloggers, not an e-commerce company. We're going to have a frightening number of packages to bring to the post office. And it's October and the team we all love is one of the four left standing.
We'll do our best, and we promise we'll make everybody happy, at least as far as shirts are concerned. (We can't help with calves, Achilles tendons or the outcome of sporting events.) But please remember we're way out of our element here, and be patient with us if you can.
And now back to putting the hoodoo on Albert Pujols and the Cardinals….

Shirts: An Update

The inaugural Faith and Fear in Flushing shirt order has been placed — and soon a big box of shirts will arrive at Jace's house. Yay! Gulp!

Thanks to everybody who said they wanted a shirt. In the next day or so we'll send you all a note asking for a mailing address and telling you how/where to send payment. (In most cases, the shirts will cost $16 delivered — those of you with bulk orders or who live in exotic locales, we'll figure it out.) If you've had a change of heart, no hard feelings — life is an uncertain business, and we'll understand if a shirt seemed like a good idea a couple of weeks ago but now not so much. Just let us know when we contact you. Otherwise, we're hoping the shirts will be in your hands within three weeks or so.

That said, a plea: We're a pair of crazy bloggers, not an e-commerce company. We're going to have a frightening number of packages to bring to the post office. And it's October and the team we all love is one of the four left standing.

We'll do our best, and we promise we'll make everybody happy, at least as far as shirts are concerned. (We can't help with calves, Achilles tendons or the outcome of sporting events.) But please remember we're way out of our element here, and be patient with us if you can.

And now back to putting the hoodoo on Albert Pujols and the Cardinals….

Baseball's Best Prognosticator

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The alleged experts, the ones who trotted out their Power Rankings and declared a certain team was guaranteed success by its “greatest-ever” lineup while dismissing another nearby competitor, all take a backseat to Jordan Rant, the Long Island first grader who projected the postseason perfectly to date.

According to her Aunt Laurie, Jordan insisted all along that “The Mets are Number One! And the Yankees are Number Thirteen-Thousand!”

Good call, kid. And nice right hand.

Pride Wenteth After a Fall

So, New Springfield's looking pretty good now, isn't it, with our ample parking and daily Who concerts.
—Mayor Homer Simpson

Probably no need to stoke these fires, but it's a long way from here to Wednesday at 8:20 PM, so what the hell?
I was listening to the FAN all through the overnight, a program devoted to Yankee grumbling, not Met exuding. As Jason said, fine with me. Let 'em gripe to high heavens, let 'em insist their truck must be backed up, let 'em beseech their PTB to switch drivers, let 'em bury those 35 homers and 121 ribbies they got from their third baseman. Let 'em get it out of their systems 'cause that's all they've got now. We've got games coming up.
But one thing, I think, bears noting. I heard a surprising plurality of the callers exclaim, “I'm embarrassed to be a Yankees fan.”
As well as you should be. But not because your team lost a playoff series.
This seems as good a moment as any to play the moral superiority card, so let's do it.
You're embarrassed to be a fan of your team? Then what the fuck kind of fan are you? Because as long as I've been a fan of the team I'm a fan of, I have never been embarrassed to be that fan.
Disgusted by my team's performance? Sure.
Annoyed by my team's decisions? Repeatedly.
Humiliated by my team's actions? Occasionally.
Depressed by my team's failures? Sometimes for years on end.
But embarrassed? Never. That's my team and I'm their fan. That's it. That's how it works. One devastating postseason series loss does not embarrass the fan out of you. Even if you've watched your team be eliminated…oh…six consecutive years, you do not become embarrassed by them. They suck? You suck…it up. It's part of the social contract.
If it's not for you, then it's not for you, in which case there's no law saying you have to stick with it. That's not an altogether dishonorable option. If your values system operates in a manner that tells you that a string of defeats at the worst possible instant is making your life more miserable than you can imagine the hypothetical down-the-road payoff being wonderful, then quit. If you can't view a few bad breaks now as a small price to pay for everything excellent you received then, give it up. You don't have to be a fan. There are other things to do with your life. Go do them. Enjoy.
But if you're going to stick with it, stick with it. Be mad, be sad, but don't be “embarrassed” by what or who you are. You called radio stations to crow and strutted down the street in your garb and probably haughted it over a few people who didn't share your particular fandom when it was all going swimmingly. Now that it's not, you can't be “embarrassed” to be that same fan. Don that cap, wrap yourself in that jacket and tell the world you still root for that team of yours, win or — this will shock you — lose.
Otherwise, you're the fraud we always suspected you were.
On the flip side, I heard a few Yankees fans mutter congratulations to the Mets and wish us luck (the good kind) in winning the World Series. They're New Yorkers, they said. Willie deserves it, they said. At least the Mets know how to play the game, they said. Whether they meant it or not, it was fairly gracious. It's more than I ever managed in 1996 when it was de rigueur in some quarters to act that way in the other direction. At the end of that year's October, the Mets took out an ad in one of the papers congratulating the Yankees. I hung it on my office door. If Fred and Nelson could tip their cap, so could I…for about two hours until I got ahold of myself and tore it down.
Now that was embarrassing.
My partner in this blog is an insightful guy. We were at one of the Subway Series games in May when I noticed how little attention our slice of Shea, regardless of affiliation, was paying to this rubber match, the one that was reportedly such a hot ticket, the one all of New York was said to be atwitter over. How, I asked him, can everybody not be glued to their seats — or at least standing in front of them — when so much is riding on this?
“I hate to break it to you,” he answered, “but not everybody is a fan the way you are and I am.”
Who knew?
There really are such animals as casual fans and bandwagon fans and fans whose interest ebbs and flows. There are people who simply like to get caught up in a phenomenon and people whose curiosity draws them to a crowd and people who have the means to attend Events and buy their way in because it's the thing to do. There are people who can take it or leave it depending on the quality of what it is. There are even people who think it's neat when a team, any team, that plays where they live is successful. Those same people didn't care before and they will drift away soon after.
Mind-boggling, I know, but they're apparently out there. As long as they're pleasant and relatively sincere, I don't mind their participation. Being a part of something bigger than yourself is what a bandwagon is all about, whether you were on the bandwagon when there were plenty of good seats available or whether you're cramming your way onto the last open car (step behind the yellow line — there's another one right behind it approaching the station!).
I'm not going to worry too much about what those who weren't Mets fans before 2006 — especially before Holy Saturday, October 7, 2006 — are thinking as long as I've got the Mets versus the Cardinals or the Mets versus the Padres to worry about. The more the merrier, et al, though I'd certainly prefer some heretofore apathetic ass not be glued to a mezzanine seat that by all rights belongs under one of our orange and blue bottoms. Should what comes next proceed well, we're the ones who will revel the deepest. Should it not, we know the drill. We might be disgusted, annoyed, humiliated or depressed. We might be all of that at once. But we'll never be embarrassed to be Mets fans.
I'd be ashamed of us if we were.

Pride Wenteth After a Fall

So, New Springfield's looking pretty good now, isn't it, with our ample parking and daily Who concerts.

—Mayor Homer Simpson

Probably no need to stoke these fires, but it's a long way from here to Wednesday at 8:20 PM, so what the hell?

I was listening to the FAN all through the overnight, a program devoted to Yankee grumbling, not Met exuding. As Jason said, fine with me. Let 'em gripe to high heavens, let 'em insist their truck must be backed up, let 'em beseech their PTB to switch drivers, let 'em bury those 35 homers and 121 ribbies they got from their third baseman. Let 'em get it out of their systems 'cause that's all they've got now. We've got games coming up.

But one thing, I think, bears noting. I heard a surprising plurality of the callers exclaim, “I'm embarrassed to be a Yankees fan.”

As well as you should be. But not because your team lost a playoff series.

This seems as good a moment as any to play the moral superiority card, so let's do it.

You're embarrassed to be a fan of your team? Then what the fuck kind of fan are you? Because as long as I've been a fan of the team I'm a fan of, I have never been embarrassed to be that fan.

Disgusted by my team's performance? Sure.

Annoyed by my team's decisions? Repeatedly.

Humiliated by my team's actions? Occasionally.

Depressed by my team's failures? Sometimes for years on end.

But embarrassed? Never. That's my team and I'm their fan. That's it. That's how it works. One devastating postseason series loss does not embarrass the fan out of you. Even if you've watched your team be eliminated…oh…six consecutive years, you do not become embarrassed by them. They suck? You suck…it up. It's part of the social contract.

If it's not for you, then it's not for you, in which case there's no law saying you have to stick with it. That's not an altogether dishonorable option. If your values system operates in a manner that tells you that a string of defeats at the worst possible instant is making your life more miserable than you can imagine the hypothetical down-the-road payoff being wonderful, then quit. If you can't view a few bad breaks now as a small price to pay for everything excellent you received then, give it up. You don't have to be a fan. There are other things to do with your life. Go do them. Enjoy.

But if you're going to stick with it, stick with it. Be mad, be sad, but don't be “embarrassed” by what or who you are. You called radio stations to crow and strutted down the street in your garb and probably haughted it over a few people who didn't share your particular fandom when it was all going swimmingly. Now that it's not, you can't be “embarrassed” to be that same fan. Don that cap, wrap yourself in that jacket and tell the world you still root for that team of yours, win or — this will shock you — lose.

Otherwise, you're the fraud we always suspected you were.

On the flip side, I heard a few Yankees fans mutter congratulations to the Mets and wish us luck (the good kind) in winning the World Series. They're New Yorkers, they said. Willie deserves it, they said. At least the Mets know how to play the game, they said. Whether they meant it or not, it was fairly gracious. It's more than I ever managed in 1996 when it was de rigueur in some quarters to act that way in the other direction. At the end of that year's October, the Mets took out an ad in one of the papers congratulating the Yankees. I hung it on my office door. If Fred and Nelson could tip their cap, so could I…for about two hours until I got ahold of myself and tore it down.

Now that was embarrassing.

My partner in this blog is an insightful guy. We were at one of the Subway Series games in May when I noticed how little attention our slice of Shea, regardless of affiliation, was paying to this rubber match, the one that was reportedly such a hot ticket, the one all of New York was said to be atwitter over. How, I asked him, can everybody not be glued to their seats — or at least standing in front of them — when so much is riding on this?

“I hate to break it to you,” he answered, “but not everybody is a fan the way you are and I am.”

Who knew?

There really are such animals as casual fans and bandwagon fans and fans whose interest ebbs and flows. There are people who simply like to get caught up in a phenomenon and people whose curiosity draws them to a crowd and people who have the means to attend Events and buy their way in because it's the thing to do. There are people who can take it or leave it depending on the quality of what it is. There are even people who think it's neat when a team, any team, that plays where they live is successful. Those same people didn't care before and they will drift away soon after.

Mind-boggling, I know, but they're apparently out there. As long as they're pleasant and relatively sincere, I don't mind their participation. Being a part of something bigger than yourself is what a bandwagon is all about, whether you were on the bandwagon when there were plenty of good seats available or whether you're cramming your way onto the last open car (step behind the yellow line — there's another one right behind it approaching the station!).

I'm not going to worry too much about what those who weren't Mets fans before 2006 — especially before Holy Saturday, October 7, 2006 — are thinking as long as I've got the Mets versus the Cardinals or the Mets versus the Padres to worry about. The more the merrier, et al, though I'd certainly prefer some heretofore apathetic ass not be glued to a mezzanine seat that by all rights belongs under one of our orange and blue bottoms. Should what comes next proceed well, we're the ones who will revel the deepest. Should it not, we know the drill. We might be disgusted, annoyed, humiliated or depressed. We might be all of that at once. But we'll never be embarrassed to be Mets fans.

I'd be ashamed of us if we were.

Reality Trumps Satire

I swear, the headlines on ESPN's baseball page right now read like a two-year-old Onion come to life. Among them:
Report: Torre to be fired, replaced by Piniella
A-Rod: 'I sucked'
Bonderman: Perfect through five…
Law: No fight in Yanks
Mets sweep Dodgers to advance
New York's bullpen slams door late…
Beimel apologizes to teammates for cut hand
Fewer than dozen fans greet dazed Yanks in New York
Then you scroll down for the piece de resistance:
Monday Oct. 2: A Bronx Bash
The Yankees haven't won the World Series since 2000, but they will recapture glory this October. Jayson Stark explains why.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to slamming Red Bull so I can stay awake forever and enjoy this.

Reality Trumps Satire

I swear, the headlines on ESPN’s baseball page right now read like a two-year-old Onion come to life. Among them:

Report: Torre to be fired, replaced by Piniella

A-Rod: ‘I sucked’

Bonderman: Perfect through five…

Law: No fight in Yanks

Mets sweep Dodgers to advance

New York’s bullpen slams door late…

Beimel apologizes to teammates for cut hand

Fewer than dozen fans greet dazed Yanks in New York

Then you scroll down for the piece de resistance:

Monday Oct. 2: A Bronx Bash

The Yankees haven’t won the World Series since 2000, but they will recapture glory this October. Jayson Stark explains why.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go back to slamming Red Bull so I can stay awake forever and enjoy this.

Emily's Wall

This* is my wife’s Met shrine at work. More joyous front pages and photos to come. And note the orange flowers in the blue vase, please. I’m happy to say the choice of colors was my handiwork….

*Image missing following blog’s migration to WordPress.

The Night Second Billing Was First-Rate

“All I know is that the only thing they’ll be talking about in the city of New York for the remainder of this season is National League baseball.” — Omar Minaya
Well, no. The Yankees led SportsCenter. Tidings of our doings didn't even arrive until after the first commercial break. WFAN? Wall-to-wall Yankees. Tomorrow's back pages? A split at best.
And incredibly, I couldn't be happier.
Ladies and gentlemen, if ever I'd told you we'd sweep our NLDS opponent and have to compete for the headlines, the reaction would have been ugly. Outrage! Frustration! Betrayal! What story could possibly be bigger than us?
And if I'd told you we'd be beaming about this slight? You'd never, ever, ever have believed it.
But I'm getting ahead of myself.
By the time Emily and I left the house with our houseguest Pete — who may not be allowed to leave until Halloween — and friends Chris (aka the Human Fight) and Peggy along for the ride, Jeremy Bonderman's astonishing demolition of the Yankees was well under way. Getting ready to go out, I flipped over to WCBS and couldn't believe the bitterness. Paul O'Neill opined that the team down below him was panicking. If there'd been an attending physician, I think the diagnosis would have been that John Sterling was in shock. Suzyn Waldman? She sounded like she was going to fling herself out of the pressbox, spitting through clenched teeth that this was worse than getting ousted in the first round by the Angels, worse than the unbelievable 2004 Red Sox comeback. “Total embarrassment,” she kept saying. Later, she trudged through a Saab promo like a captured fighter pilot forced to recite an anti-American screed.
Needless to say, I loved every single shocked syllable.
After a hasty dinner we walked into Toad Hall (a Met bar, for anyone who finds themselves near Soho come game time) in time for the final three outs in Detroit and the Tigers' gloriously loopy celebration, complete with Leyland kissing fans and Kenny Rogers (of all people) spraying champagne on fans and cops alike. We soaked it in, chortling. Then it was time to open a tab, put on the colors, relax briefly, and then shelve the undercard and bring on the main event.
My prediction before the game: We wouldn't beat Maddux, but he'd exit after his habitual 70-odd pitches and we'd beat whomever shouldn't have been brought in instead of him. Not exactly. Maddux's location was horrible from the get-go, with Reyes driving his first pitch a long way, Lo Duca getting thrown out at third and Jose Valentin coming within an eyelash of making the score 5-0 before Maddux could find three outs. If anything, he was left in too long: Yes, the top of the fourth was his strongest inning, but he should have been pinch-hit for leading off the bottom of the third. Down 4-0 in an elimination game, and you're giving away an out to start an inning? I don't get it.
Maybe Grady Little was thinking, “Hey, that's Trachsel out there.” Which is defensible, because he wasn't much better. Nobody we threw out there before Mota was: Darren Oliver lucked into a double play on a screaming line from Andre Ethier, but then let Jeff Kent (whose every appearance on the TV, I'm pleased to say, elicited a “FUCK YOU, KENT!” from me) tie the game; Chad Bradford was ineffective; and Pedro Feliciano paid homage to Kenny Rogers and the victorious Detroit Tigers by walking in the go-ahead run.
By then it seemed likely this was going to be one of those avert-your-eyes slugfests in which punches would be traded at point-blank range until someone faceplanted into the canvas — and I was confident the last fighter standing would be us. (Not that this confidence prevented me from wanting to vomit throughout the ninth inning.)
But if this was an ugly game, our indignant uprising just minutes after Feliciano's indiscretion was beautiful. Reyes hammered a hanging curve into center to tie things, Lo Duca sent a little parachute over Furcal's head (from the camera angle, everyone watching on TV anywhere in the world thought the ball had been caught), and Beltran followed with a little doink of his own. Not exactly screamers, but we were off and rolling, all the way to Wagner outlasting the pesky Ramon Martinez and the 10th pitch of that seemingly endless at-bat winding up, deservingly, in Shawn Green's glove.
All the way to the strangest, happiest case of playing second banana I can recall. All the way to one of the happiest days to be a Met fan, ever. Freude of the Schaden- and the plain old variety, all within the same five-hour stretch. I can't wait to wake up and buy every paper in sight and have Emily add the covers to her ever-growing shrine.
(Now keep reading — are you really surprised we'd both weigh in on this amazin', amazin', amazin' night?)